Hallo,

first off all thank you for the great programm.

I have ProgDVB 4.8.1 and a Technotrend S2- 3200
With the BDM driver i have no problems to work with the card without Diseq and without the HDTV S 2 Programms.

is it planned to suppord this card with an own driver with diseq and S2 ?

can i help with some Informations from the card ? Or with everthing else ?

Greatings from Germany

Saubiegel

BDA driver architecture does not know about DiSEqC, nor how to switch over to a DVB-S2 demodulator.
Original cards use some special driver patches resp. proprietary hardware controls, which depend on very special knowledge, that's not available for free.
Until details on this get public, there's no way for freeware programmers.
And to go the official way, one would not 'just' have to pay a fortune, but sign a very limiting license agreement, most certainly with both the manufacturer and MS.
Plus, such a special solution would only work for a single card type (each).

This is why, up to now, no freeware can do any of both on BDA.

Thank you for the answers. Now I understand the problem.


( Und nun weiß ich auch warum meine alte Karte Haupauge DVB S 1,3 C
so teuer bei Ebay verdingelt wird. Gut das ich die noch behalten habe)


Greatings from Münster
Grüße aus Münster

Saubiegel

Juergen wrote: Until details on this get public, there's no way for freeware programmers.
And to go the official way, one would not 'just' have to pay a fortune, but sign a very limiting license agreement, most certainly with both the manufacturer and MS.

OK, most but not ever.
Its a way that ask freeware programmer another freeware programmer

AltDVB can both for free but ist not running stable in S2 Mode with the TT3200.

wise

DVB Dream with TT DVB-S2 3600 USB 2.0 card on BDA driver Diseq work perfect.

Unfortanly ProgDVB does not (yet) support Diseqc for the S2-3200.. Sad

But with AltDVB Version 2.2 my S2-3200 is working again with Diseqc and BDA drivers!

Latest drivers from this moment.
O.S. Windows Vista

http://www.altdvb.ro/

http://www.altdvb.ro/files/AltDvb_Full_Ver22_B3912.zip

There is no need for double postings.

This for, I removed two copies of the above from other threads.


However, obviously the author of AltDVB has managed to gain some extra knowledge, some way. But as his product also is closed source, this won't help Prog...
Sad to say, it seems, the DVB software authors don't like to help each other...
Well, parts of ProgDVB are commercial meanwhile, so it's no wonder at all, some freeware authors aren't even thinking about helping with their extra knowledge.

Juergen wrote:There is no need for double postings.
This for, I removed two copies of the above from other threads.

Sorry Juergen, but you are right, double posting is not needed.
Because I was looking for a long time how to solve it, I was so happy that I thought, let's try to help as many people on this forum to solve it.

The 3 topics I replyed to where having the same problems as me, so I decided to solve a little bit there problems, by telling them my solution.
I like ProgDVB a lot, but unfortanly it doesn't support Diseqc support with BDA drivers. Also it is sad that AltDVB do not give the source/ information to help ProgDVB.
I can only send you screenshots how to setup the program AltDVB Diseqc, but ofcourse I don't know how they do it.

On this forum somebody already posted the working situation:
http://www.dvbviewer.info/forum/index.p ... 15284&st=0

Those details are common knowledge, as AltxRo is strictly following the DiSEqC definitions by Eutelsat, as documented completely here:
http://www.eutelsat.org/satellites/4_5_5.html

But that's not the problem at all.

BDA does not provide an interface to send DiSEqC commands to.
So manufacturers use some proprietary tricks to talk directly to the hardware, bypassing the driver.
And that methods and codes are not public, as it seems, mainly due to NDA with M§, necessary to get their support for BDA development...

This means, there is NO common standard to talk DiSEqC to BDA devices.
Solutions may only work device specific, if someone finds out about it's dirty tricks.
That's more like hacking than programming...

I have tryed all drivers that are available on the http://www.technotrend.de/2692/Tools___Downloads.html site until 29/10/2007.

If I use the BDA driver on there website even there own TT Media Center is not working at all in Vista! AltDVB, ProgDVB are also not working.

If I use the driver DVB-Tuner and DVB capture then TT Media Center is working. Also AltDVB is working and ProgDVB without Disecq also.

Today I'am looking on the Technotrend website again and see that the have released new drivers. I'm going to test them today.

BDA Software + Treiber TT-budget / Nova Version 5.0.0.6 (30.10.07) Windows XP/Vista (32bit und 64bit) Treiber TT-Media Center 1.0.7.9 (30.10.2007) (Windows XP/Vista 32bit und 64bit)

http://technotrend-online.com/download/ ... .0.0.6.zip
http://technotrend-online.com/download/ ... .9_WEB.zip
http://technotrend-online.com/download/ ... .0.7.9.pdf

I hope they have fixed some things!!!

I don't know why and how, but at this moment it's working!

ProgDVB + Disecq + S2-3200 + latest drivers ( see post before)...

Hope it will work also tommorow, but at this moment I'm very happy

It's still working

At this moment my Skystar 2 and S2-3200 are working good with progDVB
The only problem I have at this moment is that I use WinCSC as plugin for ProgDVB, bacause I don't have two cards for watching pay TV. Skystar2 is working fine with WinCSC, but the S2-3200 is not working correctly with WinCSC, I have to restart the plugin manualy every time I choose a other channel. Does somebody know why it's not working correctly with the S2-3200?

We don't discuss card sharing issues here.
And that plugin is 3rd party software.

For stuff like that, check in at dvbn.happysat.org or similar places.

Juergen wrote:... BDA does not provide an interface to send DiSEqC commands to...

Hi Juergen
I also have experienced this problem. Because I wanted to test, if the Hotbird LNB is working I deleted the Astra from the option menu and suddenly after a restart ProgDVB was somehow able to change to the second LNB. Even if have watched an Astra channel with TT-Media-Center before, stopped it and then started ProgDVB it worked. How is this switch done during startup? Can't this code be used for switching during a channel change?

Thanks,
KliBo

Only Prog might know or find out.
I am not programming in any way.