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Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:02 pm
by avada
Hi!

I'm not sure when this started, it might have been always present. I have an Astrometa tuner and use madVR (but it also happened with EVR) and LAV both with prog/microsoft demuxer.

With two channels in particular I constantly get this issue. The audio at first crackles sometimes, then starts cutting out more and more until it goes totally silent. Sometimes I also noticed the audio being out of sync while this was happening.
With other channels that I watch I only notice crackling and audio desynchronization sometimes, but it never becomes worse than that. (the desynchronization can be annoying in itself)

Also the same channels in another tuner app (DVBViewer) while also using madVR and LAV doesn't show any of this with the same channels so it has to be something on ProgDVB's side.

Here are the channel properties:
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<Channel id="8001A3F9.000000000005C490.001A">
	<Caption>DIGI Sport 1 HD</Caption>
	<ProviderName>DIGI Miskolc</ProviderName>
	<Freq>378000</Freq>
	<SR>6900000</SR>
	<TunerType>3</TunerType>
	<Modulation>256-QAM</Modulation>
	<SID>26</SID>
	<PCR>3211</PCR>
	<PMT>3210</PMT>
	<VideoPID>3211</VideoPID>
	<TID>5</TID>
	<NID>1</NID>
	<VideoFormat>2</VideoFormat>
	<Streams>
		<Item>
			<PID>3212</PID>
			<Type>Audio</Type>
			<SubType>1</SubType>
			<Lng>7239016</Lng>
		</Item>
	</Streams>
	<LogoName>digi sport 1 hd</LogoName>
	<LogoSourceType>2</LogoSourceType>
	<EpgAliasSourceType>3</EpgAliasSourceType>
	<ScrambledFromTS>1</ScrambledFromTS>
	<OldCanUpdate>1</OldCanUpdate>
	<CanUpdateCaption>1</CanUpdateCaption>
	<Vide3Dflag>1</Vide3Dflag>
	<ChNumber>19</ChNumber>
	<OrigenalChNumber>52</OrigenalChNumber>
	<ListIndex>22</ListIndex>
	<ChCounter>278</ChCounter>
</Channel>
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<Channel id="8001A3F9.00000000000B6210.001C">
	<Caption>DIGI Sport 2 HD</Caption>
	<ProviderName>DIGI Miskolc</ProviderName>
	<Freq>746000</Freq>
	<SR>6900000</SR>
	<TunerType>3</TunerType>
	<Modulation>256-QAM</Modulation>
	<SID>28</SID>
	<PCR>33</PCR>
	<PMT>200</PMT>
	<VideoPID>33</VideoPID>
	<TID>29</TID>
	<NID>1</NID>
	<VideoFormat>2</VideoFormat>
	<Streams>
		<Item>
			<PID>101</PID>
			<Type>Audio</Type>
			<SubType>1</SubType>
			<Lng>7239016</Lng>
		</Item>
	</Streams>
	<LogoName>digi sport 2 hd</LogoName>
	<LogoSourceType>2</LogoSourceType>
	<EpgAliasSourceType>3</EpgAliasSourceType>
	<ScrambledFromTS>1</ScrambledFromTS>
	<OldCanUpdate>1</OldCanUpdate>
	<CanUpdateCaption>1</CanUpdateCaption>
	<Vide3Dflag>1</Vide3Dflag>
	<ChNumber>20</ChNumber>
	<OrigenalChNumber>54</OrigenalChNumber>
	<ListIndex>42</ListIndex>
	<ChCounter>279</ChCounter>
</Channel>

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:56 pm
by Prog
What audio card?
try ProgDemux+ Prog audio renderer

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:22 am
by avada
Prog wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:56 pm
What audio card?
Now it's my new mobo's audio. I used to use a Xonar D1. Doesn't seem to make a difference.
Prog wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:56 pm
try ProgDemux+ Prog audio renderer
Okay. Though the prog demuxer I tried before but it had additional problems. Some channels were weirdly choppy.
Though I don't think I ever tried changing audio renderers.

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:06 am
by Prog
What audio format? For codec?

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:02 pm
by avada
I changed to prog audio renderer as suggested. So far so good. Thanks for the advice!
Prog wrote:What audio format? For codec?
I'm using LAV for all AV codecs. The audio shows up as stereo mpg for these channels.

Anyway, I'll check back if the problem returns.

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:57 am
by avada
Bah. I get all sorts of problems. With prog demultiplexer some channels are unwatchable for the huge amount of framedrops. (Other channels still drop frames when they shouldn't but rarely)
With Microsoft demultiplexer these channels are much better, but other ones drop frames and get progressively out of sync. After a few minutes you get seconds of audio delay.

All of it's very buggy. Because all the variable issues, it feels like ProgDVB does a poor job at keeping the different filters and renderers in sync.

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:06 pm
by Prog
Check File->Input traffic->Packet lost.

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:09 pm
by Prog
Must be some reason why ProgDVB too bad working on your PC. May be bad traffic or some exotic sound card. Some different with 90% other PCs.

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:53 pm
by avada
Prog wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:09 pm
Must be some reason why ProgDVB too bad working on your PC. May be bad traffic or some exotic sound card. Some different with 90% other PCs.
Doubt it. I just upgraded the hardware, so I have a new mobo and CPU, and use the internal soundcard instead of the Xonar I used. Yet the problems with progDVB remained. Only thing "special" Is that I use madVR and LAV.

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:01 pm
by Prog
Try use ProgDVB some days without madVR. I think not many users use this renderer.

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:08 pm
by avada
Prog wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:01 pm
Try use ProgDVB some days without madVR. I think not many users use this renderer.
I might, but I use it for a reason. (advanced scaling algorithms, and sharpening)

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:11 pm
by avada
Switching to EVR doesn't help. I got the audio de-synchronization, or the framedrops immediately.
I also had the audio cutting out happening before with system audio renderer.

So the exact same issues are happening. ProgDVB is bugged somehow.

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:55 pm
by Prog
Not good. Still same question. What not typical on your PC? Must be some reason for sync problem.

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:20 pm
by avada
Prog wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:55 pm
Not good. Still same question. What not typical on your PC? Must be some reason for sync problem.
Nothing. As far as I can tell. As I said problem even followed me through a hardware upgrade.

Re: Constant issues with audio jaggines, cutting out and getting out of sync

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:28 am
by avada
Won't this crap ever be dealt with? For several years nothing has changed and the issues are constant.

Not even the pro users who paid money care about it? Disappointing...