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Hardware for PiP

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:38 am
by adhome
Hallo,

my old TV-Card (nexus) is broken and now I searching for a new one.
The best would be HDTV (DVB-S2) with PiP (dual reciver) support.
But there is no Card like that.

So I thought, i will buy 2 cheap cards of the same sort:
Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-HD-S2
http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/produc ... ahds2.html

Will the new PiP future work with 2 of these same cards?
Or must it be 2 differnt types of cards so i can aktivate 2 devices under the devices settings.

Thanks for your answer.

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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:09 pm
by Prog
It is depended. Some card not can use two tuners at once, some not can work if more one on PC. Most safe way is two dvb cards from different manufactures.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:39 am
by rotarum
i'm sorry but you can NOT receive hd channels like premiere hd with nova hd on latest progdvb version ! :(
i have the hauppauge nova hd s2 and i get no lock signal on 11914 (premiere hd) !

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:05 am
by adhome
@rotarum:
Die freien Sender wie Sat1 HD und Pro7HD konnte ich aber schon empfangen. Sie haben glaube nur den Transponder gewechselt (;
Außerdem muss man beim Kanal noch das S2 Checkbox setzen.

Premiere HD verwendet eh ne spezielle Verschlüsselung die anders ist als deren normale Kanäle.

@all:
Does somebody have experience with hardware combos where PiP will work 100% ?

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:47 am
by Juergen
Please keep it in English here!

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:43 pm
by rotarum
adhome wrote:@rotarum:
Die freien Sender wie Sat1 HD und Pro7HD konnte ich aber schon empfangen. Sie haben glaube nur den Transponder gewechselt (;
Außerdem muss man beim Kanal noch das S2 Checkbox setzen.

Premiere HD verwendet eh ne spezielle Verschlüsselung die anders ist als deren normale Kanäle.

@all:
Does somebody have experience with hardware combos where PiP will work 100% ?
i dont mean the possibility of decryption of premiere hd !

there is no lock signal on 11914 frequency astra 19e with my nova hd !!

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:30 am
by Juergen
So, do you get a lock on 12722 H 22000 2/3 (DVB-S2)?

How are L & Q close to 11914, at the DVB-S transponders, H and V ?
Means, at 11876 H, 11895 V, 11934 V, 11954 H ?

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:30 am
by rotarum
Juergen wrote:So, do you get a lock on 12722 H 22000 2/3 (DVB-S2)?

How are L & Q close to 11914, at the DVB-S transponders, H and V ?
Means, at 11876 H, 11895 V, 11934 V, 11954 H ?
hi Jürgen,

i have tested the mentioned frequencies ! result:

11876,11895,11934 and 11954 are working fine ! L and Q are high !!

but on 11914 only L is high, the Quality is not present !!!

i have also tested the other DVB-S2 on Astra 19e like 12522, 12581 and 12722 , result:

i got only lock signal with L & Q high when i set PILOT to ON manually ! i dont know what the Pilot setting is doing but when i activate it, i get lock singal with my nova hd ! :)
maybe this will help you for the next release !

only on 11914 there is no reaction if i set Pilot on :(

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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:46 am
by Prog
I think you have card like hauppage 4000 and must set correct value rolloff and pilot for scan S2 transponder.

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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:31 am
by rotarum
Prog wrote:I think you have card like hauppage 4000 and must set correct value rolloff and pilot for scan S2 transponder.
hi Prog,

i have tested all combinations of rolloff settings and pilot with no success :(

on astra 19e the other s2 transponder work with pilot setting on but only the premiere hd transponder 11914 is showing no reaction !

hopefully you can make a fix for it ...

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:00 am
by rotarum
nachtrag: also with the new 5.12.6 the s2 transponder 11914 on astra 19e is not scan-able. pilot and rolloff combinations showed no result :(

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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:35 am
by Prog
Try install last driver.

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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:09 am
by rotarum
Prog wrote:Try install last driver.
already done! there is no update since 2 months.

by the way, in latest dvbviewer its working with activated "new tuning methode" option !
so its possible to scan the 11914 s2 transponder on the nova hd but hopefully you can find out how to realize this in Progdvb :roll:

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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:18 am
by Prog
I hope hauppauge update driver in near time...

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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:39 am
by rotarum
Prog wrote:I hope hauppauge update driver in near time...
i also hope so ...

but why is the 11914 s2 transponder working on latest dvbviewer ??
i dont understand this :?

all other s2 frequencies are being found with pilot setting on with latest Progdvb but premiere hd transponder not ...