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Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:07 pm
by Yany
ProgDVB Pro 6.43.2 - Can´t make it work without audio/video sync problem. Tried all combinations of filters/renderers/muxers, no help, SD or HD channels get unsync after few minutes.

demuxers - microsoft, elecard, cyberlink
video - cyberlink, elecard, ffdshow/microsoft DTV, cyberlink H.264, coreavc
audio - ac3filter, ffdshow, cyberlink
renderers - EVR, custom EVR, VMR9/directsound, waveout, speakers

- I deleted empgdmx.ax
- disabled audio processor
- changed soundcard (Audigy 2, Realtek HD)
- changed drivers
- reinstalled ProgDVB

CoreAVC 2.0, Cyberlink PDVD10, ac3filter 1.63b, ffdshow 3488

I run older ProgDVB 4.84 without problems, also DVBDream, ALTDVB, same combinations, all is OK. Only in ProgDVB 6.43 I have this Issue. Also any content I play in any player is OK for me.

Q6600, 8GB RAM, Skystar HD2, Audigy 2, HD3870, Win7/x64

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:59 pm
by Prog
Is it x32 version of ProgDVB?

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:25 pm
by Yany
Yes, x86 - all apps and codecs.

(Now I tried x64 version, and it works fine - no sync issue. Used Microsoft DTV decoders and demuxer.)

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:48 pm
by Yany
Here´s little finding:

If I disable timeshift buffer, sync issue is almost gone, it does not increase with time, keeps at few milliseconds.

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:48 pm
by Yany
Another finding:

If I run debug, I get error message:
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It does not appear in normal mode. I got sound even thought. Advice on this problem, anyone? Thx.

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:36 am
by Prog
try change other audio renderer or/and disable AP.
And audio codec.

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:19 am
by Yany
Done everything. Only and only time I don´t have sync issue is if I use Elecard Audio Decoder (for MPEG and AC3) !

What´s wrong? What should I do? Unregister and delete Elecard filters?

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:25 am
by Prog
At first, you must setup without this error message.

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:52 am
by Yany
Got it. This settings gives me no sync issue and no error:

demuxer - microsoft
video - cyberlink
renderer - custom EVR
audio - elecard
renderer - directsound
AP - off

Sync issue back, if I change audio codec (to whatever) or audio renderer (to whatever).

What should I do to use my set of filters? (Cyberlink+AC3 or MS DTV+AC3?). Is Progdvb using only and only filters I set up in chain?

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:56 am
by Prog
If you have this message then audio codec not like work with ProgDVB. For example CyberAudio work only in PowerDVD.

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:10 am
by Yany
This message appears with AP enabled.

Audio sync issue is present with every other audio codec than Elecard - ac3filter, ffdshow, cyberlink. Those codecs work - I can see control panel for every.

Sync issue has also something to do with timeshift, if I set it low (10MB) sync issue is almost gone or appears later, if I have it high (100/200MB) it appears very soon.

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:45 pm
by Yany
Ok, here´s audiorenderer (directsound) log:
Same settings:

video-Cyberlink
audio-ac3filter
renderer-VMR9/directsound
3mins.

ProgDVB 4.84:
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ProgDVB 6.44:
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ProgDVB 6.44/Elecard:
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What´s wrong with 6.xx ?

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:59 pm
by Prog
Different only in demux and AP. If you disable AP and select elecard demex then should be total same like in old version.

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:55 pm
by Yany
So, I switched to Elecard demuxer - cool, no delay, no dropped frames UNTIL I change channel, then it´s all much much worse then with MS demuxer:

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I have 2 soundcards (3 with HDMI on VGA) Audigy 2 and RealtekHD. Could this lead to such a behaviour in ProgDVB 6.xx ? (No, I removed and tried other soundcard, still the same)

Re: Audio/Video sync problem

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:57 pm
by Yany
Just to be sure, I installed clean fresh system Win7/x64. Just drivers and ProgDVB, later codecs:

- Catalyst 10.6, Skystar 2 (4.6.0.0, WDM), Skystar HD2 (1.1.1.502, BDA), Audigy2 (2.18.0017, WDM), DirectX (June 2010)
- ProgDVB 6.44 Pro
- CoreAVC 2.0, Cyberlink (PDVD10), ffdshow 3488, ac3filter 1.63b

It is the same. Sync issue, audio distortion. No matter what combo I use, sooner or later it appears.

- audio renderer waveout: sync issue starts from the beginning (with every combo), after two minutes it´s unwatchable
- microsoft demuxer: (sync issue after a while)
- elecard demuxer: can´t use cyberlink decoders nor CoreAVC (picture distortion, no audio - after changing channel)
- EVR custom: some channels (HD) are blocky and/or jerky
- CoreAVC: many frames dropped, audio sync problem (every demuxer)

Best combo is:
- elecard demuxer
- microsoft DTV for MPEG2 and H264
- microsoft DTV for MPEG audio
- AC3Filter for AC3
- EVR and directsound renderer

With this combo it all works for about 20mins, then audio breaks suddenly, video starts jerking:

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I remind it is the fresh Win7 installation, with no other software/codec etc., no mess. All other players, even old ProgDVB 4.84 works great with every combo.

- how to make ProgDVB working at least with one combination?
- is there someone with working ProgDVB on Win7/x64?

Thx.