Hi All, does anyone uses ProgDVB with Medion cards? I have ctx953 (DVB-T), it can find channels but no picture or sound...
Thanks, Aron

Check channel properties of a few channels, if they contain audio and video IDs, that are NOT zero (= none).
If valid IDs found, and at least some valid Now / Next data being shown, maybe you don't have any useful codecs available.
Or perhaps the transmissions are encrypted...

You should try to give people more details, like what DVB-T services are available on your location...

Hi,
here is the channel list info. There are _FTA_ and encryped channels...
I used the _pro_ trial version 6446. Codecs are _present_, since the card works (the digital part) with other sw (dvbdream, dvbviewer).
(I also uploaded the channel info. By the way, it is for the Szentes and Szeged region (8MHz, 8000 sr).
Would i get signal strenght with wrong pids???


channel number freq (MHz) ch name video pid audio pid
UHF 60 786 rtl klub 1071 1072
UHF 60 786 tv2 1081 1082
UHF 60 786 mtv 1 (hu) 1001 1002
UHF 60 786 mtv 2 (hu) 1011 1012
UHF 60 786 ATV (hu) 1021 1022
UHF 60 786 hir tv 1031 1032
UHF 60 786 Euronews en 1091 1092
UHF 60 786 Euronews fr 1091 1094
UHF 60 786 Euronews de 1091 1096
UHF 60 786 radio test-1 0 1041
UHF 60 786 radio test-2 0 1051
UHF 60 786 radio test-3 0 1061
UHF 60 786 neo fm 0 1131
UHF 60 786 data service A 0 0
UHF 65 826 duna tv hd 2001 2002
UHF 65 826 duna autonomia 2011 2012
UHF 65 826 cool 2021 2022
UHF 65 826 film+ 2031 2032
UHF 65 826 sport klub 2041 2042
UHF 65 826 national geographic (hu) 2051 2052
UHF 65 826 national geographic (en) 2054
UHF 65 826 disney channel (hu) 2061 2062
UHF 65 826 disney channel (en) 264
UHF 65 826 axn (hu) 2071 2072
UHF 65 826 axn (en) 2074
UHF 65 826 fem3 2081 2082
UHF 65 826 private spice 2091 2092
UHF 65 826 data service C 0 0

txt pid PMT pid PCR pid service pid video encr. audio encr. nid
1073 1070 1071 60 h.264 aac 8903
1083 1080 1081 80 h.264 aac 8903
1003 1000 1001 100 h.264 mpeg 8903
1003 1010 1011 101 h.264 mpeg 8903
1023 1020 1021 102 h.264 aac 8903
1033 1030 1031 103 h.264 aac 8903
0 1090 1091 109 h.264 aac 8903
0 1100 1091 110 h.264 aac 8903
0 1110 1091 111 h.264 aac 8903
0 1040 1041 104 h.264 aac 8903
0 1050 1051 105 h.264 aac 8903
0 1060 1061 106 h.264 aac 8903
0 1130 1131 113 h.264 aac 8903
0 1700 8194 170 8903
2013 2000 2001 200 h.264 mpeg 8903
2013 2010 2011 201 h.264 mpeg 8903
0 2020 2021 202 h.264 aac 8903
0 2030 2031 203 h.264 aac 8903
0 2040 2041 204 h.264 aac 8903
0 2050 2051 205 h.264 aac 8903
aac 8903
0 2060 2061 206 h.264 aac 8903
aac 8903
0 2070 2071 207 h.264 aac 8903
aac 8903
0 2080 2081 208 h.264 aac 8903
0 2090 2091 209 h.264 aac 8903
0 2700 8191 270

Hi ALL, clean install...
tuning informaton... (826 MHz, 8MHz) pids are fine, the signal strength is also fine.

video renderer: enhanced video renderer
mpeg-2: mainconcept mpeg-2 video renderer
h.264/avc: mainconcept avc/h.264 video decoder
wmv: wmvideo decoder dmo
mpeg4: mpeg4 decoder dmo
mpeg43: mpeg43 decoder dmo
mpeg4s: mpeg4s decoder dmo
h.263: na
vp6:na

video renderer: enhanced video renderer
mpeg-2: mainconcept mpeg-2 video renderer
h.264/avc: mainconcept avc/h.264 video decoder
wmv: wmvideo decoder dmo
mpeg4: mpeg4 decoder dmo
mpeg43: mpeg43 decoder dmo
mpeg4s: mpeg4s decoder dmo
h.263: na
vp6:na

no picture? -->change to:
VMR-9 renderless (after apply, progdvb crashes)
error message after starting progdvb
[{dbs} 713x bda dvbt tuner] run dba graph error!
[{bda} 713x bda dvbt tuner] Device not started!

After these, the medion card cannot be enabled, the same error message is given (without crash, with any of the video renderer options).

Before reboot, I changed the video renderer option to "video renderer (osd not supported)". This usually helps. The card could be enabled but no picture (on any _FTA_ dvb-t channels).
I changed the "h.264/avc" option to "divx h.264 decoder". Progdvb crashed.

After the crash and reboot...
Progdvb worked, picture and sound are present. The HD channels are not in the right 4:3 format (or aspect ratio), but there is a moving picture. (1440x1088)

But...
When I get into options, and click to audio\codecs, the sw crashes again. After a reboot, the card can be used again.

Has anyone got any suggestions? I hope, I am not the only one with this card. Thanks, Aron

P.S.:
With dvbviewer (v421): the mainconcept codecs work, the HD channels are in the right aspect ratio. BUT... The picture falls apart after changing from sd to hd, only a prg restart helps...

As this all bases on a Pro version, I can't really help any further.

However, a few things are looking really strange from my point of view, limited to the German situation of DVB-T:

- we don't have HD on DVB-T here, it may come with DVB-T2 one day.
So many TV stations on each of just two transponders, this would normally require DVB-T2, to allow a suitable symbol rate, for each and in total.
Or are some not working 24/7, time sharing the resources instead?

- all stations are coded in h.264, so this is the only video codec used.
I am not sure, if your CPU is really strong enough to do this properly.
Perhaps it may be important, to get at least some hardware acceleration by your GPU, in case to be activated fro the codec's properties.

- I have never heard of a regular service, transmitting HD content in 4:3 aspect ratio. But as your screen (resolution) is (almost) 4:3, you would need to have set 4:3 letterbox for 16:9 transmissions, to avoid getting egg heads...

That's all from me here in this thread now, as told before.
But perhaps also tell people, what kind of drivers you have for the tuner, what GPU and driver, what OS and service pack exactly and DirectX version and alike.

Hello, all channels are in 24/7. (Except PrivateSpice...)
The Hungarian state channels broadcast their HD in both 4:3 and 16:9. (The SD is upscaled.) The two commercial channels are in SD. The dvb-t quality is ways better than from satellite, like the encrypted Digitv (on 1W, I think.)

My PC isn't the strongest one, but it can cope with the HD stream with dvbviewer and dvbdream. Progdvb cannot. I think, the main cause is the codec difference: Progdvb won't work with the Mainconcept codec only with divx, the other two can use Mainconcept h.264 without dropped frames.
My graphics card is older than the PC...
Maybe my harsware can be seen on exhibitions in museums in West Europe.

ATI Radeon 7000, 32MB RAM
Opsystem is winxp pro en sp3 with 1,5GB RAM
Directx is 90c

The Medion driver is the latest from the Creatix site (http://www.creatix.com/support/typ.php?tid=115&gid=14).

Thanks, Aron