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Recording to .pva or .mpg - ProgDVB produces broken files :|

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:09 pm
by Satman
Hello there,

i tried recording with ProgDVB and it did record something but however the files are not readable to other programs. I can replay them fine with Prog but i cannot trim them with Cuttermaran or else for example. Even PVA-Strumento refuses to open the files. The pva recording even plays laggy in VLC.

So what is the problem here? Any chance to repair this mess to work with the recordings?

thank you,

Satman

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:15 pm
by SiLencer
why record in pva instead of mpg....it doesn´t matter in what format do you record...

1. pva record only works good with premium cards like hauppauge nexus and technotrend premium

2. if you use a hauppauge nexus or technotrend premium card..check device options and ´uncheck´ : Receive mpeg2 from skystar 1 ...if you not do this corrupt recordings may be the result...

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:20 pm
by Satman
i have a hauppauge nexus 2.2 running in hardware mode and i tried all formats pva and mpg in order to find out which one works ;)
But nevermind, after 2 days testing all programs i could find that treat mpeg2 i finally found a program that repaired all the broken files i recorded ;).
But why the hell isn't progdvb capable to do 'correct' recordings in hardware mode?

greetz,
satman

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:23 pm
by SiLencer
No problem here with my Hauppauge Nexus 2.1 and Hauppauge DVB-C 2.2 on driver 2.17g ...

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:04 am
by Juergen
Same with Nexus-S 2.2 and driver TT 2.19, on Win98SE or W2kP.
Recordings are fine, ready for playback in ProgDVB (MPG even over my HDD DiVX player).
As the recordings aren't constrained for PC, several software players may run into trouble due to packet size and timecode issues. This for it's highlxy recommended, to de- and remux for later use in common applications.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:12 pm
by Brazil2
Satman wrote:But nevermind, after 2 days testing all programs i could find that treat mpeg2 i finally found a program that repaired all the broken files i recorded ;).
Same problem here, recorded files don't play in any other media player.

What is this magical program you have found ?

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:58 pm
by CHfish
Brazil2 wrote:
Satman wrote:But nevermind, after 2 days testing all programs i could find that treat mpeg2 i finally found a program that repaired all the broken files i recorded ;).
Same problem here, recorded files don't play in any other media player.

What is this magical program you have found ?
I've got the same problem - The MPV (mpeg2 video) header is broken - as for example TMPGenc does show me, if I use advanced demuxxing.
Although I would prefer a good stream produced by ProgDVB I found my way: I use ProjectX to convert the MPG File to an "M2P-MPG" File. After doing this step I use PVAstrumento...

CHfish

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:44 pm
by Brazil2
After doing some investigations I finally found that the files are recorded in PES format which is a dumb format.

PS and/or TS formats should be used instead and then the files will be compatible :wink:

CHfish: thanks for the info :)

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:03 am
by Juergen
This would, at least on the SS1 cards, require some extra restructuring on recording procedure.
Not necessary, if intending to use recordings, to play out over the SS1, or (.mpg) even over some HDD players, like mine, based on a prolific chipset, that also does VOB, DivX, AVI and lots more...
All recordings in perfect synch there, without any prior treatment.

But tools like PVAStrumento can restructure (not recode) streams very quickly.
And in most cases even simple de- and remuxing would also do the job.

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:53 pm
by t1470258
Unreadable recordings can cause from anything such as;
ProgDVB version, Hardware you're using, Hardware drivers version, Load on your CPU, Stability of your OS etc...

When I first started using ProgDVB it was in v4.62 & give me serious problems with my SS2. Back then someone suggested to use more known to be stable version of ProgDVB + Drivers. So I switched back to v4.56 and all my errors in recordings are gone!... So my suggestion; try different combinations of not so latest ProgDVB with not so latest drivers of your hardware on a stable not so multitasking system. (You can setup more than 1 ProgDVB in different folders e.g.; 1 latest for testing, 1 stable for recordings)

As for PVA; I can't find anything other than PVAStrumento & ProjectX to deal with them properly (Even they can't handle some of the files). When I got many unreadable, uncorrectable, uneditable PVA files, I switched to MPEG2. With the help of 'VideoReDo' (many other solutions are available compared to PVA) recording, cutting, editing etc... will become easier than ever. As for AVI conversion, with Gordian Knot or AutoGK one can do whatever he wants with ease.

I hope these will work for you too...