no channels & wierd signal reports

#1
I scan for channels but I am unable find any??

I am wondering if it has something to do with the fact I am using a DishPro Plus LNBF? I have read these draw a lot of power and some FTA/DVB cards don't have the power to switch them - but shouldn't I at least get some channels? I hope to borrow a single LNB from a friend of mine next week and can report how this works out afterwards.

The RG-6 cable connects to port 1 of the DPP Plus, runs for about 60 feet and then connects directly to my DVB card. However, to verify I have signal I connected an old Bev box and it reports 70% signal on 119. When I connect back to my DVB card and launch ProgDVB it reports 100% for signal strength but nothing for quality (I assume the first box is for signal strength and the second for quality).

I am trying to point to 119/110 and have tried setting the following first using the Geniatech device listing and then with the Conexant BDA listing (As picked up and shown in the Device listing options). The scans take 30 seconds to run but do not produce any channels. Blind scans take under 5 minutes to run with the same results. When running a blind scan level=100; Quality=0.

Diseq switch settings:
Diseq 1.0(4 ports)

First entry (I assume this is port 1)
Ku-band type with power selected
Default LOF settings for 1&2 (also tried 1125/1435)
Satellite = 119 (2410: Anik F3 & EchoStar 7 & DirecTV 75)

Second entry (I assume this is port 2)
Ku-band type with power selected
Default LOF settings for 1&2 (also tried 1125/1435)
Satellite = 110 (2500: DirecTV 5 & EchoStar 8/10)

System info:
- ProgDVB version 5.14 English
- Digiwave 103G DVB
- Two options reported in ProgDVB device list (1) Conexant BDA DVB-S Tuner/Demod version 1.53, API version 1.33 (2) Geniatech DVBS device version 1.00, API version 1.16
- BDA Driver
- Win XP/SP2 English


- ProgDVB older verions had same results (4.75 - bundled with software) & (4.9)
- Also tried using DVBDream, & MT with no success

Any help anyone can provide would really save the few hairs I have left on my head :) I am still a newbie so please expect a few stupid questions from me.

Thanks
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#4
Hi Prog,

This DVBS PCI card from is boxed and branded as a Digiwave 103G but uses the Conexant chipsets and is identical to this Digistar DVBS card (http://www.geniatech.com/pa/digistar.htm). This card is exactly the same but must have been rebranded (google provides some good reference to this theory).

I have tried to get into the Device --> Options but nothing happens when I select this?? I'll be back at home soon so I'll test this again to see if the application provides anything in the event logs. I'll share anything I find of interest.

Prog (here is where the stupid question comes in) What do you mean by what Module am i using? I have not installed any additonal modules although I do plan on installing emu at some point. Is there a software module I need to install?
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#5
Prog wants to know, what BDA device you are using, exactly.

BTW, in fact your "DishPro Plus LNBF" may be the cause. AFAIK that's pretty proprietary America specific stuff, that needs special LOF settings and, if it uses band stacking instead of polarisation switching, even a modified transponder list.

ProgDVB's LNB setting defaults are for European style LNBs, with 22kHz band switching and 13 / 18 Volts for V / H linear polarisation switching.

Due to a stupid planet in between your birds and Europe, and completely different satellite band limits, we don't use your kind of LNBs over here. Would not give us much more than around a quarter of the Ku band width, that's used over here, on almost every position these days.

You may find a helpful NA related section at dvbn.happysat.org
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#6
Hi Juergen & Prog,

The DVB device information provided with the link is what I am using (http://www.geniatech.com/pa/digistar.htm).

In regards to the LNBF - I read up on this (after buying them) that these do in fact use band stacking so that a user can utilize two dual STB's (providing you are using their equipment) and only have to run one cable. They have a device called a DishPro Plus Separator that will allow you to separate the upper and lower stacking(I believe this is what it does). Not sure if this would help me get channels though? I really wonder if I should sell the LNBFs and look at getting a twin or quad instead?

BTW: I have tried the standard LOF settings as well as the settings others have posted for these LNBFs - 1125/1435 & 12224 etc but with no luck.

As for the Device --> Options this is only available if I select the Conexant BDA DVB-S Tuner/Demod version 1.53, API version 1.33 device. I tried all the device options listed but still no channels on a scan or a blind scan. When selecting this device the details listed are: [Options dialog, Transport stream, Full transport stream]

If I select the Geniatech DVBS device version 1.00, API version 1.16 device, nothing happens when I click Device Options. I checked the event log and there are no entries. When selecting this device the details listed are: [Diseq commands (support diseq 1.2), Transport stream, Full transport stream]

Also, is it normal to have new ethernet controllers listed after installing the DVB card? I now have a Windows TV/Video Connection and a GeniaNet Ethernet controller listed within my Network Connections. The Windows TV/Video connection has an IP address of 0.1.0.5 and the GeniaNet connection has the MS assigned IP address of 169.254.182.70.... are these correct? or is this strange?

I will also post over at dvbn and see if they have anything to add. Thanks for the responses !! If I get it figured out I will also post here what worked.

Anything else you can do to assist, the better :)

Thanks.
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#7
1. Yes, DVB card can installed like network addapter.

2. LOF settings you can set in settings->diseq->...->LNB
You must enter same like printed on LNB.

#8
Bandstacking is a proprietary North American technology, that requires special settings.
Parameters are different from anything known in the rest of the world, including Europe.

Even some very rare European single cable distribution systems (with reduced accessibility) are completely different, as parameters are not similar in any way. The only thing in common, these need special transponder lists as well.

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So it's highly recommended, to read at DVBN, as mentioned before. You will find all the other Americans there, and all the details you need.
So don't forget to read before posting there.
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#9
Thanks for the assistance. I posted over at DVBN but found out that my problem was with the LNBs I was using. I think I'll sell these off and buy some singles now instead.
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