first sorry for anything make u disturbed

how did that PID enter the channel props?

i have found it by default ... but i don't know how (maybe i didn't understand the question fine )

Did you activate the ETSI subs module, perhaps?

yes , but nothing have been change

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there's a small info and maybe u kill me after u read this :

these channel are scrambled

We don't talk decrypting issues here, of course.
But I won't beat a dead dog...
So take care...


Anyway, I've never seen the letters 'PID' show up in that TXT subtitles page area in the channel props before. Just three digit numbers along with the language description.

So that's what I'd like an explanation for...


Tto avoid conflicts, disable ETSI subs module, if you want / need to use TXT based subs.
Are you really sure, that provider uses ETSI subs (over an extra PID)?
Also possible, they use a different system, like MHP, for certified receivers.
Perhaps check their pages...

ok . i got it ...

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Firstly these channel don't use teletext module ( there's no teletext indeed ), so if i disable the ETSI Subs module ( and i tried that ) nothing change .


Are you really sure, that provider uses ETSI subs (over an extra PID)?

yup , i'm sure >>> and maybe it will be never run only under a certain receivers .

Maybe this will be useful !!!

http://www.orbit.net/Faq.aspx

Sorry, did not find any specifidations on that site, nor any details on need of special receivers, in any way.

This means, nothing that could help me helping you...


Still I don't even understand, how the PID was added into the channel properties you made that picture from. Have never seen that happening over here.
I don't know any station on my birds (28.2°E, 19.2°E, 13°E, 30°W), that uses ETSI (or any other PID based subtitle servies), so i can't test over here.

And I don't even find a station named TVMAX listed for 26°E at satcodx or lyngsat

Right now I'm feeling like BSOD / general protection fault...

Anyone else here, who does understand and / or could help further on with this?
PLEASE...

You can see Tv Max channels on lyngsat in the link below

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/orbitbadr.html

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and the answer about this question : I don't even understand, how the PID was added into the channel properties you made that picture from. Have never seen that happening over here.

I don't know ... i didn't make any thing ... it's here by a default !!!

I'm use ProgDVB 4.77.2EE

This may (but not must) be due some special function of the shareware version you're using.
No idea then, as I don't have it, sorry.

Anyhow, following the link you've posted, I still don't find the station you've taken your properties picture from.
As we're talking digital issues here and trying to locate some trouble's source, we have to be 100% precise.
This for I was looking for a station named TVMAX on 11013 MHz H 27500, SID 562, to check the other IDs.
But I simply don't find it at all.
Lyngsat does not even list that transponder.
SatcoDX lists a transponder 11014 H 27500, but that station is not to be found...


So nothing i can do...

I don't no why these channel not include in the website specialized and deals with satellite!!

Any way i'm sure that's the channels use Pid for the sub ... and it's exist

another try with 5.03.08 ver and i have this
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and about the link above it's exist with another transporder and Sat ( Eurobird sat ... i don't know anything about it )

Any way thanx for all ... and i will collect more info

regards

Now I'm ompletely irritated and clueless...

And here is why:

Without a valid and up-to-date ID list I can't in any way find out what happened.

Something is strange, regarding that bird and ProgDVB, obviously.
But I can't test here, so no way to help, sorry.

Anyone else to continue, PLEASE

ETSI subs IDs are not to be found there.

Repeating myself:

Juergen wrote:Anyone else to continue, PLEASE

lastly , it's work with 5.12.10